Coneytt (again)

[Jack Tragic]

Dude,

I have been busting my az for the past 3.5 weeks, dieting strict. Looked in the mirror kinda feeling funny, and didn't notice nothing unusual. Stepped on the scale, 301. Now in 3 weeks of pur dieting like above, I went from 294 to 301.

I know it wasn't retention weight picked up throughout the day because I weighed myself early in the morning. Things are not going the way I planned, I am suppose to be sitting at like 281-284 now, with a 42in waist. However I am 301, 43 waist and not losing bf but just packing on more muscle.

WTF!

I know I am not going to hit my target, something is off in my diet, after that initial 50ish pound lost, I platued and is very dam pissed off. I have been strict with no off days nore cheat days and this is bullshit

(SMACK- from PS)

Thanks, PS I need to be smaked and told to calm down. 

Okay for real, I am pissed off, (in a calm tone) I think I need to balance my diet out. the high protein low carb thing isn't working.

I have a slow metabolism, I pack on size (bf and muscle) really easy. I lose easy usually but this time things are different. I am not sure how I can lean out. F*** the competition, I am just tired of being a fatazz.

HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

Hello bro. "Pissed-off...in a CALM TONE"...I love it           
             I can really understand your frustration Theo. Let me ask you if while maintaining your strict diet, are you allowing yourself to have 1 "junk day" a week as well? Over time our bodies get used to a "diet" and it becomes less effective. By throwing your metabolism a curve so to speak might get things back on track. Also remember that after an initial period of loosing/gaining, things slow-down considerably and doing EITHER becomes more difficult. I'm on vacation starting this Sunday and for the most part free...('cept for work on my house). if you wanna train shoot me a text.
           Again...your situation may seem perplexing to you. Don't give up! The one thing I can suggest to you would be what worked for me when I wanted to drop 40 LBS. that I didn't need anymore at the time (finished with power-lifting...more or less and wanted to shed the extra weight that kept my strength up)...
 This worked VERY well for me. You will see a change at the end of week 2 and it will continue on as long as you maintain this diet. It is bland and very booring but you WILL get used to it again buy the end of the 2nd week.... took me where I needed to be!   
         Also we need to change your workout every 10 days to keep you away from the dreaded "comfort zone training"...

[p.s.]

JT is quite right when he suggests a cheat day. If you're not having a high cal day IE junk food then your body has adapted to the diet and as such has stopped losing BFand will switch to using muscle tissue for energy and continuing to store/hold onto BF. Listen to what we tell you 'cause we have all been there and learned through our mistakes how to properly diet the BF away all the while preserving muscle tissue.

Look up Dan Duchaines Body Opus diet on the net and see what you can find, as Dan was the man when it came to diet, supplements etc and all the current nutrition guru's have taken Dans info and tweeked it a bit, but are essentially using his theories.

[muscle_n_blood]

Coney, I have to chime in here. First, let me state that you have all my respect... but as someone who has wrestled with his bodyfat most of his life, I know the deal. Jack and P.S. are right. You do need a cheat day to continue to make GOOD progress. I also know that you cannot diet strictly for 3+ weeks and gain weight. Your body cannot manufacture tissue, muscle or fat, out of air, and you can't hold that much water.
 Here is what happens, and I know for an absolute certainty that this is true. I've done it myself too many times and seen it in too many others when I was a trainer. When you are fully puffed up, the first week on a strict diet you lose quite a bit, some of it water. The second week you lose a little less. The third week the loss slows down even more, and you begin to settle into a very slow weight loss process that loses weight but eats away at muscle as well as fat. That is where the cheat day can speed your metabolism and improve progress as well as help preserve muscle.
Thing about the cheas day is that you have to eat TRULY clean the rest of the week... not one great day, then a pretty good day, then a clean day, then an "uh-oh" day, then sort of clean, then cheat. You have to nail it down tight on your clean days. Pick a day (it's Friday for me when cutting) and have a food orgy. Anything goes. The rest of the week, you must plan your food, prepare it in the AM, and remind yourself frequently during the day what your goal is. The cheat day will be fun and effective only then. Over time it gets a lot easier, and the cheat day helps you stay sane as well as improve progress. Eventually, the cheat day won't be as big a deal, and you'll have to actually try hard to eat enough.

[coneytt]

Coney, I have to chime in here. First, let me state that you have all my respect... but as someone who has wrestled with his bodyfat most of his life, I know the deal. Jack and P.S. are right. You do need a cheat day to continue to make GOOD progress. I also know that you cannot diet strictly for 3+ weeks and gain weight. Your body cannot manufacture tissue, muscle or fat, out of air, and you can't hold that much water.
 Here is what happens, and I know for an absolute certainty that this is true. I've done it myself too many times and seen it in too many others when I was a trainer. When you are fully puffed up, the first week on a strict diet you lose quite a bit, some of it water. The second week you lose a little less. The third week the loss slows down even more, and you begin to settle into a very slow weight loss process that loses weight but eats away at muscle as well as fat. That is where the cheat day can speed your metabolism and improve progress as well as help preserve muscle.
Thing about the cheas day is that you have to eat TRULY clean the rest of the week... not one great day, then a pretty good day, then a clean day, then an "uh-oh" day, then sort of clean, then cheat. You have to nail it down tight on your clean days. Pick a day (it's Friday for me when cutting) and have a food orgy. Anything goes. The rest of the week, you must plan your food, prepare it in the AM, and remind yourself frequently during the day what your goal is. The cheat day will be fun and effective only then. Over time it gets a lot easier, and the cheat day helps you stay sane as well as improve progress. Eventually, the cheat day won't be as big a deal, and you'll have to actually try hard to eat enough.

Thanks MnB,

Your opinion, as others on this site, is truely valued. To be honest, the items listed earlier are all that I have eaten. Also I know my body weight fluxutes(sp) like crazy. One thing I did not mention was me also taking creatine, of which I know puffs u up and retains water. I stopped the creatine, and is investigating some othr stuff.

I know I need to dumb this down a bit and go by the numbers. Dieting should be simple, but it along with a hectic daily life is kicking my butt. But I'll gt it, i just felt the need to vent earlier.

Thanks for the response,

Theo

[muscle_n_blood]

I'm on your side and I know how tough it is. It's harder for some of us than others. Our bodies don't seem to want to cooperate, sometimes. Remember this, though: This is like the law of gravity. What goes up, must come down..that is, if you eat less calories than you burn, your body has to lose weight. It cannot NOT do so over time. Water weight can be a pain and have a negative effect on the scales at times, but you can only retain so much. Our job as bodybuilding/strength/fitness enthusiasts is to make the extra effort to see that those calories we do eat when cutting are of maximum benefit to us. Do it.
Life is busy, complicated, and frustrating..... Do it anyway.
I don't want to fool with a food plan today..... Do it anyway.
We're going out for dinner..... Do it anyway.
Throw away the scales. They just give you worthless information.  Don't fool yourself about what you are eating or what a truly strict food plan is. Do your food right today and you can feel good about it. Do it again tomorrow and feel good about that. Do that enough days, however many that is, and the results will come. They have to.

[coneytt]

Sup guys,

Me I'm here demotivated and mentally drained. Between school, work, intership, family, on top of that the non-weight loss, i'm just plain pooped. So last week and this week and next week I'm taking off. I need to chill for a second. "I have to go back to the situation room and talk to the commander and chief for orders."

Today I am bout 298, 43 waist, 46 hips, 60 shoulders 55 chest. arms are 21 3/4 legs are 32 (all in inches).

I went and purchased a suit, had to get it a 58 and have major work done to it. Coat had to be taken in about 4 inchest in the waist area, but let out 1in in the back/ shoulder area. My arms were so big that they had to open up the seams bout 1/2 inch on each arm to make it fit my arms ok. Pants were a 44 anf fit great.

Like I said I just need some mental rest, but will not be away long.

Holla back
-Coneytt

[p.s.]

You're doing just fine, but you are expecting things to happen WAAYYYY to fast. With all you have on your plate just take it one day at a time, AND STAY OFF THAT DAMNED SCALE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jack Tragic]

Theo bro, you ARE doing fantastic! Don't get side-tracked! Check yer PM's.
               BRICKHOUSE

[Jack Tragic]

Theo...did u get that diet I shot U ?              J.

[coneytt]

Got it, doing it, coming along. Thanks bro.

[Jack Tragic]

Again this will seem booring and dull. But stick with it and you will be rewarded! If you need tweaking call or pm me! Stay with this and you will "train" your metabolism to do what YOU want done!     J.
               Again...make sure you consume at least 6 protien/water shakes @ 1 1/2 scoops w/6 ounces water a day. If you feel hungry at any given moment...then add another shake at that time....and another...as many as you need...or just have another portion of tuna... or BOTH! Plain or with a low to non-fat condiments. Make sure you consume green veggies (french green beans, brocholli, asparagus, endive, leaf greens etc).
 Once you get control over things there is much room for munipulation... J.

[p.s.]

Listen to JT and do as he says. All of us have, over the years, discovered what works and what doesn't but it took time and patience (and we generally did it ourselves), so listen to JT and no one else at this time (or you'll get confused) and see how things work for ya over the next 3 months.

DO NOT VARY FROM JTs PROGRAM!!!!

[coneytt]

Thanks guys,

I'm currently out of state at a conference for my job. They are hosting all types of lunching functions here. Still trying to stick to it, without insulting the people who invited me. So I find myself eating many salads just  to not offend anyone. But for the most part I am sticking to it. I have added a daily cycle of merolax (sp), due to back ups. (Just not going dude). But besides that, I am hitting carido 5xs a week, back-chest, quads-shoulder, cardio abs, back-chest, hams-arms, boxing-cardio.

This is just me getting in better conditioning while still hitting the weights. Just switching things up. High reps, low resps, heavy sets, light weight, slow, fast, negatives etc. Just trying to just keep things switched up.

I know I need to stretch more. I have no elasticity in my muscles. I have never been a flexible person, but I am really lack more than the least flexible guy. Oh well, Ill add some more stretching after my routine.

But thanks guys, I'll continue to monitor things while here and when I return on the 20th, I'll get back to BUSINESS.

-Coneytt

[p.s.]

I'm sure you can get chicken or steak at these luncheons as well as salads. You'll be fine and you're learning how to eat while on the road as well.

[coneytt]

PS

I'm sure you can get chicken or steak at these luncheons as well as salads. You'll be fine and you're learning how to eat while on the road as well.

PS, you must be thinking of those girly type luncheons where you get three square with options..

I attended a COP conference. Breakfast the whole time was scrambled eggs and sugar filled muffins.

Lunch was tacos, then spaghetti, then bbq chicken, hot wings, burgers & dogs.. throughout the entire time. We had local restaurants but they were your dennys and crackle barrel type places (all home-style cooking).

But like I said, monitored my portions and did some low/ moderate cardio speratically throughout the time there.

Now I'm back home and here we go again.