Hey, Jack! Good to hear from you... I'm getting along, but have been suffereing some physical ailments of late. Shoulder and low back are acting up, and I had a retinal tear in my right eye that needed a laser procedure to fix. Had to lay off heavy lifting for a month... getting better though.
As for pain, it's about the trade-off... I'll pour Tabasco Sauce in my eye if it will help me grow. What really hurts me but doesn't help much is the high-dose ester combinations like T-400.
Haha! OK M&B..sorry to here about your ailments bro! We DO pay the price for abusing our bodies, don't we though? Speedy recovery and get back to crankin"! Ya, I remember the T-400 although it didn't bother me as much as the Ref-B did...go figure! Throw up some pics in the forum...old or new...it's all good

Everybody whant's to see "the legend"... JT.