Critique my routine

[BEEF]

Hi,
I'd be very appreciative if you guys and gals could check out my routine and see what you think. Just checking around some forums on the web and all the topics I go into they just tear routines like mine apart, citing their reasons as overtraining, less is more, and you don't know how to build muscle. Anyway, I'll not be posting my routine anywhere else as I'd prefer constructive critisism which seems to be the case here.

All days include at least 10 minutes of warm up. I will write 1 x 12, then 1 x 12, as opposed to 2 x 12 as each set is a different weight, progressively getting heavier.

[BEEF]

I can't actually post my routine I just return a browser error every single time, IE, Firefox it doesn't make a difference.

[p.s.]

PM Hardcore and see what he can do.

[BEEF]

I have added my routine in a .txt document, as I am still having no luck posting.

[BEEF]

I'm going to give this a shameless bump, as I really need help as I don't want to be doing something that won't work Thanks

[muscle_n_blood]

That will work. looks pretty solid. Keep us posted on your progress. One thing to watch is how your shoulders feel. You have a lot of delt volume in there in addition to the ancillary work they get. Be sure your delts have plenty of recovery time before you hit chest. Remember how you posted that your delts get very taxed on your chest workout.

[p.s.]

Well I just reviewed your training routine and all in all it looks good. I would however do some adjusting of shoulders IE rear laterals first, side laterals second, military press third, and then finish up with light/high rep DB press or light/high rep cable side laterals from behind the body. Dump the Arnold press and upright rows as both are very hard on the shoulders.

[BEEF]

Excellent thanks to both of you I get fed up of reading threads elsewhere on occasion and reading people comment that other members are overtraining all the time. I mean they really believe that you can only train on a 3 day split etc etc and if you're training more than that you're obvioulsy overtraining.

So thanks for clearing that up for me The comments about the shoulders make perfect sense, perhaps I've just been hitting them too hard as well as all the other work they get. Would make sense why they have been acheing a lot more than the rest.

Cheers!

[p.s.]

Hey beef just as an example of what I do (and yes I followed the same routine as a natty I just used lighter weights) for legs and shoulders

Delts
rear laterals 4x12 up to 80 lbs
side laterals 4x12 up to 70 lbs
Hammer military 6x8-20 up to 400 lbs
Smith behind the neck 3x20 135 lbs
cable side laterals 3x20

Legs
seated leg curls 6x20-12 up to 150 lbs
standing leg curls 4x15 moderate weight
D/B SLDL 2x15 100 lb D/Bs
leg press 7x30-12 up to 1100 lbs
body master front squat 5x15-20 up to 600 lbs  Body Master makes one hell of a great leg machine designed in part by   Boyer Coe
body master hack squat 4x15-20 up to 300 lbs
leg ext 3x20-30 moderate weight.

So even though yes I am enhanced at this time I have always trained with this type of volume and as I don't rest much my intensity is pretty high as well. Maybe I'm a bit weird in that I can handle 20-30+ sets with heavy weights and still re-couperate or maybe I have good genetics, or possibly I may have just trained my body and CNS to handle this...I don't know. What I do know is that most people are bone fuking lazy and will embrace any training philosophy that allows them to get outta hard work and is backed by some type of science even if said science is sketchy at best.

Just train one body part per day as hard and as heavy as you can with solid form for 60-90 mins and you'll make solid gains. Overtraining for BBing just doesn't exist, but under eating and under resting sure does.

[BEEF]

Thanks p.s. that really puts it into perspective. Ever since I've been posting here I've been a speaker of the philisophy that there is no such thing as overtraining, just under eating and under resting like you've pointed out. I'm glad you've cleared this up here, becuase although I don't train with quite the volume as yourself, I have only just started and at the stage I am at I am training with more volume than anything who I have given the BB Bug to, and I believe I'm making fantastic gains. At the moment the major lifts weights rise each week etc.

And I guess you're right, most people are just lazy and will try and get out of hard training any way they can. I for one, enjoy training. If I was to mosey on down to a gym and do a half assed half hearted workout and then come home, I would feel as though I've just wasted that. I expect to be a little sore the next day, but I believe I recover very quickly and am able to push on week through week.

[p.s.]

Glad I could help.

[Wozzer]

Just a casual observation, but I've noticed some of the strongest guys are those that do manual labor every day (ie, farm workers etc).  I think overtraining varies from person to person, if you're putting yourself at risk of injury or if you can't stay intense, then you're probably overtraining.  Otherwise I'm thinking more is good. 

[p.s.]

Just a casual observation, but I've noticed some of the strongest guys are those that do manual labor every day (ie, farm workers etc).  I think overtraining varies from person to person, if you're putting yourself at risk of injury or if you can't stay intense, then you're probably overtraining.  Otherwise I'm thinking more is good. 

As an old rule of thumb if you start to lose the pump from a muscle then it's done for that workout.